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1099-Div for Trust for deceased (in 2021) spouse but it's in her SSN

Greta
Level 9

Spouse of 93-yr old client died in 2021. He brought me two 1099-Div reports for 2022 by Morgan Stanley in the wife's Trust but with her SSN. Is it up to me to get the Trust an EIN so I can file a trust return? Client is not helpful due to age.

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BobKamman
Level 15

Follow the money.  Does he have constructive receipt, or is it just sitting there in her account?  It is up to the successor trustee to take care of this.  You can't appoint yourself and you probably can't practice law in your state without a license.  

If he received the money, put it on his return and figure out how to get him help this year.  If he did not, follow your conscience.  Another reason why trusts are a mistake for far too many people, who never find out because they're dead by the time it becomes obvious.  

Skylane
Level 11
Level 11

You need the trust document. What assets does the trust own? Who are the beneficiaries? 
Who are the heirs to her estate? Hopefully there’s an attorney handling the estate who can give you guidance.

If at first you don’t succeed…..find a workaround
Greta
Level 9

I will try to get these questions answered. But if the 1099-div reports went to the IRS in the SSN even though the recipient is "Trust of...", how do I file a trust return with that number? (Fortunately, the stock sales produced a small loss, and dividends aren't huge).

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BobKamman
Level 15

Perfectly acceptable to use the grantor's SSN while the trust is still revocable.  This is a new client, you hadn't noticed it in previous years?  

You don't really need the trust document, you just need the part that names the successor trustee.  If it's the husband, are there kids or grandkids who can help him get help?  

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taxes96786
Level 9

You need a copy of the Trust  and a copy of the 2021 returns to answer questions you may have. The Trustee needs to provide all of the documents you need to prepare the 2022 returns. 

You can't change the SSN that shows on the 1099. You may be able to include a statement of adjustment for this item but, not until you have the information that clarifies everything.

Greta
Level 9

Grantor had a revocable trust in 2021, the year she died. The trust becomes irrevocable at death. In 2022. its income was reported to IRS under same SSN.

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sjrcpa
Level 15

"In 2022. its income was reported to IRS under same SSN."

That's because the Successor Trustee never notified the Payor of her death and did not obtain an EIN for the trust.


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sjrcpa
Level 15

 How was the 2021 income earned after her death reported for tax purposes?


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