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Multi Member LLC - Had Several Fixed Assets Stolen

catherine3
Level 3

I have a multi member LLC client. They are a camera equipment rental house. Their facility was robbed and several items were stolen - basis value of $108,000. How do I record this in Pro Series. Do I just go to asset entry worksheet that I used for each item in the previous years and treat it as a disposition and use $0 for the sale price? The insurance company paid them replacement cost of $213,000. Consequently, they are in a better position by $105,000. Is that difference between the loss and the insurance money taxable? Is there anything else that I need to do to record the robbery loss? Thank you in advance to anyone who can help.

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Skylane
Level 11
Level 11

Sounds like there’s a 4868 in your future… section B

https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/i4684.pdf

https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/i4684.pdf

assuming the cameras were replaced to the extent of the insurance company payout income will be shown.. PS handles it well on a 1040. I’ve never tried on a 1065.

If at first you don’t succeed…..find a workaround

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Accountant-Man
Level 13

What kind of business tax return?

Yes, $105,000 is income.

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catherine3
Level 3

Form 1065

taxes96786
Level 9

Is it possible that the excess covers the cost of replacing the items. Perhaps the current cost of the stolen items is higher than the FMV of the stolen items.

sjrcpa
Level 15

Did they buy replacement equipment?

Or did they just take the money?


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Skylane
Level 11
Level 11

Sounds like there’s a 4868 in your future… section B

https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/i4684.pdf

https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/i4684.pdf

assuming the cameras were replaced to the extent of the insurance company payout income will be shown.. PS handles it well on a 1040. I’ve never tried on a 1065.

If at first you don’t succeed…..find a workaround
Skylane
Level 11
Level 11

@taxes96786  Yes, it is likely that the insurance coverage was on a replacement cost basis. In order to get the full value of the claim from the insurance company, the insured must replace the property and provide proof. 

@catherine3  you’re correct that  the disposition of old assets will be 0. New depreciation for the replacement equipment. I assume sec 179 may be used to extent allowable. @Accountant-Man knows business returns better than me.

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sjrcpa
Level 15

There is a rule for involuntary conversions. See IRC Section 1033.


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Skylane
Level 11
Level 11

@sjrcpa thanks. Forgot.

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catherine3
Level 3

Thank you.

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