I only have so many words I could type in.  They have w-2 income of 201,000. but losses on numerous K-1's offset that income so it is a total negative income on the 1040.  They got a letter from the IRS stating that they should file for the Additional child tax credit,.  If the 8812 uses the w-2 income they would qualify,. But proseries does not use the w-2 income just the overall loss.