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Specified service trades or businesses (SSTB) occupation for 199A

GeorgePhx
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Do you think a computer programming consultant would be a SSTB?  They don't sell any software but customize existing sofware to each client's need for an hourly fee.

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mdavolio
Employee
Employee

Hi George,

Here's what IRS Publication 535, Chapter 12 (https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p535.pdf) says about Consulting being incuded as a Specified Service Trade or Business: Consulting, including providing advice and counsel with the intention of influencing decisions made by a government or governmental agency and all attempts to influence legislators and other government officials on behalf of a client by lobbyists, and other similar professionals. However, it excludes the performance of services other than advice or counsel, such as sales, training or educational courses. It also excludes embedded or ancillary services that are otherwise not SSTBs, if there is no separate payment for the services.

Tax analysts at Intuit are not allowed to give tax advice.  This is a gray area and you would need to distinguish the services being provided as either consulting (SSTB) or software engineering (non-SSTB).

Thanks,

Mike D'Avolio

Intuit

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mdavolio
Employee
Employee

Hi George,

Here's what IRS Publication 535, Chapter 12 (https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p535.pdf) says about Consulting being incuded as a Specified Service Trade or Business: Consulting, including providing advice and counsel with the intention of influencing decisions made by a government or governmental agency and all attempts to influence legislators and other government officials on behalf of a client by lobbyists, and other similar professionals. However, it excludes the performance of services other than advice or counsel, such as sales, training or educational courses. It also excludes embedded or ancillary services that are otherwise not SSTBs, if there is no separate payment for the services.

Tax analysts at Intuit are not allowed to give tax advice.  This is a gray area and you would need to distinguish the services being provided as either consulting (SSTB) or software engineering (non-SSTB).

Thanks,

Mike D'Avolio

Intuit

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IntuitJim
Employee
Employee

George, Thanks for joining the Community. SSTBs are an untested, gray area, where you get paid the big bucks to be the TaxPro navigating tax guidance. SSTBs only apply if your client is a high earner. A software programmer is not one of the SSTBs specifically named here 

https://accountants-community.intuit.com/articles/1788190-qualified-business-income-199a-specified-s...

But it could fall under 'consulting'.  If you read the final IRS Regs on 199A, page 59, F. Consulting here

https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-drop/reg-107892-18.pdf 

f. Consulting
Proposed §1.199A-5(b)(2)(vii) is informed by the definition of “consulting” under
section 448 and provides that the term “performance of services in the field of
consulting” means the provision of professional advice and counsel to clients to assist
the client in achieving goals and solving problems. Consulting includes providing advice
and counsel regarding advocacy with the intention of influencing decisions made by a
government or governmental agency and all attempts to influence legislators and other
government officials on behalf of a client by lobbyists and other similar professionals
performing services in their capacity as such. The performance of services in the field
of consulting does not include the performance of services other than advice and
counsel.

It appears IRS is construing narrowly, which would not include your client as an SSTB.

Good luck!

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